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| 05 May 2010 11:42:33 am |
 Changing Science |
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Today I was going through some of the science journals I used to go through. I've been too busy and too tired to really look at any recently. Over the last few months there have been a number of DIFFERENT articles stating that what we know about our evolution and what species of pre humans we come from, has had to be rewritten or re discussed. Finding new species in humans in places all over the place keeps changing what we know. How is it that people can believe in one thing, only to completely change their belief when they are shown something that proves them wrong. Now, this isn't just one person. This is an entire society. People follow these people and listen to these people and accept everything they have to say. My classic example is the chocolate topic. For ages "scientists" and "research" have told us that chocolate is bad for us, then good for us, then bad for us, and so on and so on. And people just adjust to suit the trend at the time.
Now, this is what I was thinking about God in regards to this. The way he works, never changes. The outcomes, never change. The bible never changes. You find God, you know that same thing for the rest of your life.
If you find science, you just find a bunch of nerds making huge assumptions. |
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Category : General
| Posted By : AnmanIndustries |  Comments [9] |
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By : Guess. @ Time : 08 May 2010 10:35:06 am : |
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I'm pretty sure the new testament was the bible changing, as wall as the Qur'an.
But then again, you don't need to change things very often when you don't need evidence to support the claims. Hell, religion can somehow stay the same when proven wrong with a doubt. |
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By : Anman @ Time : 10 May 2010 09:35:16 am : |
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The bible has never been proven wrong. New information has been added though. Such as the new testament. It wasn't a matter of, instead of stoning people to death as punishment, you now have to use the gas chamber. It was a whole new doctrine. Instead of killing them, forgive them.
2 months ago, it was thought that so and so prehistoric man was the foundation of our evolution. With this new discovery, mentioned in the post, they have mearly changed from stoning to something else. Side stepping, instead of stepping forward. I understand that science helps us all. When I was a kid I wanted to be a scientist and I tried to set up a lab at home. But when science conflicts with God, I have yet to see a single step forward. Always sideways. It's like, AHA! We have discovered our evolutionary links, oh wait, we were wrong. AHA! We have discovered how to cure syphilis! Oh no, aids. Ect, ect. |
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By : Yarg @ Time : 11 May 2010 12:37:58 am : |
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Science can prove, without a doubt, that the earth is billions of years old through the a use of constant-decay nuclear particles. As far as the bible's concerned, this shouldn't be possible, as the earth is no more then a few thousand years old.
Science can also disprove a lot of the stories in the bible, which can basically disprove the entire thing. The argument that the disproved stories are merely stories and not fact like the others is a fallacy. It's either all fact, or all analogical stories.
But then again, we're talking about a book a few thousand years old, that's been modified and mistranslated by thousands of people about a man who lived almost a thousand years before it was written. When it was written, there was close to 8 gospels, but only the 4 'best' ones made it into the final version, and even they can't agree on some fundamental elements of the story, such as why Joseph and Mary where in Bethlehem to begin with. |
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By : Anman @ Time : 11 May 2010 09:57:24 am : |
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Now hold one one second here. The whole creationism was created by stupid people, and because the same stupid people don't bother reading the bible or looking into it themselves, they just believe what they are told. I believe in creationaism, and evolution. You have to start with the fact, that God uses the term DAYS to describe how he made the world. How do we define day? You look up into the sky, and see the sun pass over and so on. Or in some places it spins around in a circle. How can there be DAYS, before light even existed? Before the earth even existed? Isn't it possible, that maybe, just maybe, God was simplifying it? Time is useless to God. His 1 day could have been billions of years. He used evolution to create us. People who just say, oh the earth is just 10,000 years old and dinosaur fossils are from the DEVIL, are just uneducated. Dinosaurs give us many things. They are admiration and interest to children and scientists, gives us something to do. We wouldnt have such awesome movies as Jurassic park if it wasnt for dinosaurs. Or oil.
SCIENCE can NOT disapprove anything in the bible. Archaeologists and historians may be able to. How does science prove why a person was in an area at a time in history? Time machine excluding. And what is wrong with the census idea? Isn't it possible, that Herrod was just being a giant douche again? Assessing what he has so he can waste it? (People resources)
The bible is the most accurate of all books. Translations from pretty much the new testament time is pretty much exactly the same as it is now. The bible is a popular book. Even back then. Using that logic you are also saying that something like Mozart or some other classical music in a thousand years time will not sound anything like it did back then. Which is bullshit. How can something which had thousands and thousands of copies when it was originally written, new testament here, I don't have enough knowledge of the origin of the old testament, be distorted at all? How can translating something lose meaning? If that was the case, then china would have eventually attacked and murdered every other country by now because translators would have made a mistake somewhere and called some high up guy an asshole instead of a cool guy. And ancient greek and hebrew is a lot easier to translate than Chinese. The reason the other books, known as the Apocrypha were removed, because they were not God inspired. Pretty soon after Jesus left and his disciples finished their business, other people decided to have a shot at adding to the bible. It was nonsense. Regardless, it is up to God to determine what is in the bible. Pretend you believed in God and he existed. If he was that good, he would ensure what we have now is correct. And it is. |
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By : ANMAN! @ Time : 11 May 2010 10:06:41 am : |
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| There is really no point to continuing this. Unless you absolutely must. It'll just eventually tun into a pissing contest, who can piss the furthest. And with my highly trained gamers bladder, I think I will win. |
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By : Gir @ Time : 11 May 2010 11:33:52 am : |
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Well at least you're smart enough to reinterpret the bible based on scientific fact. If only there was more Christians (Or religious people at all) that smart in the world.
Science can disprove things from the bible, the old testament being particularly venerable to this. For example, scientists can prove:
Jericho not only had no walls, but it was destroyed by an earthquake
Sodom was destroyed by high pressure pockets of oil rupturing and exploding, causing boiling oil to rain down on the city (This shit still happens today)
Noah could not have built his ark in less then 200 years. The great flood was also caused by an asteroid hitting the north atlantic ocean. There is evidence of the great flood (written and physical) across America as well.
I would also like to point out that an Archaeologist is a Scientist.
Translation is never accurate. You could pick up a heap of bible from different publishers, and while the core elements would be the same, they will be worded completely different. This leads to different interpretations of the test, and can cause translations to be completely different. It happens with everything that is translated, as colloquialisms don't translate.
You're right, God would ensure the bible was correct, which is why when it differs it is evidence that he doesn't exists. Or maybe he's just focusing his efforts on the latest version, the Qur'an.
Also, the only reason I continue this argument is because you're the only person I know who has done enough research into the topic to have a proper argument/discussion with. |
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By : Anman @ Time : 11 May 2010 11:45:12 am : |
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By : Gir @ Time : 12 May 2010 03:33:20 pm : |
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| I was surprised that a meaningful discussion was starting, good thing you rapidly put an end to it, thus preventing yourself from having to think about anything. Good work. |
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By : Anman @ Time : 12 May 2010 03:37:28 pm : |
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Please refer to my previous post about a pissing contest and not continuing this debate.
I do not want to waste my time debating such things. If you want to know something, ask specifically. Other wise I'm not bothering anymore. |
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